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Michael L, what were you weekly miles and how did these compare to what you did previously? The best part about the M2 program was I never counted miles. It was a very refreshing change. Let me do the math though. Besides race week, I don’t think I ran more than 30-33 miles in any week. Just looking at my log, over the entire 12 weeks, I averaged 190 minutes of running a week and an additional 30 minutes of non-running workouts. Taking into account all of the interval work, I bet I averaged between 7:15-8:00 minute miles, so 23-26 miles a week (I just did the math 3 times to double check; it still does not seem possible). My 1st marathons, a 4:02 on the same course in 2003, I followed a very traditional heavy mile program: http://www.marathontraining.com/marathon/m_mile.html http://www.marathontraining.com/marathon/m_sch_2.html It was a 36 week program that had me running many more miles. 5 weeks were over 40 miles in the week and three 20 plus mile runs. Keeping in mind that I was running at a slower pace, this was extremely hard on my body and I saw very little improvement along the way. And mentally, it was very hard to stay focused (I found myself getting bored with “logging miles.”) My second marathon, a 3:51 16 weeks ago, I followed a similar program that was even heavier on the miles. The problem this time was right when I felt like I was hitting a decent stride, my body broke down and I had a bad foot injury from over usage. Instead of running the last 4 weeks of the program, most of my time was spent trying to heal just so I could run the marathon. How long have you been a runner? In high school and college I was a tennis player. Any running I did was usually speed work or around 3 miles. The first two marathons I did I ran as something to do, but not very focused on time. After my June marathon I wanted to try and train more serious but was lost with all of the different methods. So I would say that I have been a “hack” runner since 2003, but working with you is the first time I have actually trained correctly for a faster speed. How many marathons had you run previously? This was my third. Twin Cities in 2003, 4:02 Grandma’s Marathon, June 2006: 3:51 Twin Cities in 2006, 3:18, Another good data point is I ran a 1:40 half marathon on August 5th. According to some time charts I have looked at, that would have put me at a 3:30 marathon. Somehow I gained 12 minutes in the last 7 weeks with the training. Let me know how else I can help. Thanks again. Mike Lippold
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